Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 106

03/07/2011 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:03:44 AM Start
08:15:11 AM Presentation(s): Sitka School District Superintendent
08:35:37 AM HB5
09:09:16 AM HB104
10:00:57 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation by Sitka School District TELECONFERENCED
Superintendent
+= HB 104 ALASKA PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIPS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 5 CONSTITUTIONAL HISTORY CURRICULUM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
             HB 104-ALASKA PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIPS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  104,  "An Act  renaming  the Alaska  performance                                                               
scholarship  and  relating to  the  scholarship  and tax  credits                                                               
applicable to contributions to  the scholarship; establishing the                                                               
Alaska  performance scholarship  investment fund  and the  Alaska                                                               
performance  scholarship award  fund and  relating to  the funds;                                                               
making  conforming amendments;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."  [In front of the  committee was Version I, which had been                                                               
adopted as the work draft on February 9, 2011.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK opened public testimony.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:09:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE PINE, SERRC (Southeast  Regional Resource Center), Alaska's                                                               
Learning Network,  indicated that the infrastructure  of Alaska's                                                               
Learning Network provided and enhanced  opportunities, as well as                                                               
answering  connectivity, staff  development,  and course  content                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  STANLEY,  Technology  Director, SERRC  (Southeast  Regional                                                               
Resource Center),  Alaska's Learning Network, offered  to address                                                               
any specific or general inquiries.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:12:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK asked how every  student, specifically in rural areas,                                                               
could receive the  classes needed to qualify  for the scholarship                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY replied that SERRC  worked with a variety of distance                                                               
delivery initiatives, and that one  of the main objectives was to                                                               
locate the existing  programs and incorporate them  together.  He                                                               
reported  that there  was a  focus  on customizing  courses.   He                                                               
shared  that there  was a  suite of  solutions designed  for both                                                               
broad band  internet and low band  width, as well.   He described                                                               
much of his work to be within the school network capabilities.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:16:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON asked  when  these  programs would  be                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY replied  that five  priority course  areas would  be                                                               
available  to   240  students  in   the  summer  of   2011,  with                                                               
considerably more growth for the fall.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY, in  response to  Representative  P. Wilson,  listed                                                               
math,  foreign language,  social studies,  science, and  language                                                               
arts as the upcoming priority course  areas.  He pointed out that                                                               
these would vary for the needs of each district.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:18:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  asked  about the  funding  for  these                                                               
courses.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY replied that funding  models included grants, pay per                                                               
service,  and a  formula by  population  which was  paid by  each                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:18:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA   asked  if  video   teleconferencing  was                                                               
possible between students in remote communities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY  pointed out that  the Alaska Learning  Network would                                                               
include a community feedback and interaction loop.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:21:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DICK asked for a demonstration to how a course might work.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY replied  that course  materials were  not available,                                                               
but  he described  the  course  bits and  reviews  that had  been                                                               
submitted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:23:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK  asked  if  courses   would  be  available  to  rural                                                               
communities   that  would   allow   for   qualification  to   the                                                               
performance scholarships.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY replied  that there  were many  courses, and  that a                                                               
frame work would be available by the summer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:24:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   P.   WILSON    pointed   out   that   graduation                                                               
requirements varied between districts,  and asked what incentives                                                               
would be available for modification by the small districts.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:25:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY  quoted  a  superintendent, "we  would  love  to  be                                                               
involved as  long as we don't  have to change what  we're doing."                                                               
He noted that guidelines for  application of the program had been                                                               
developed.   He  pointed  to  the ability  to  match a  student's                                                               
specific needs to a specific program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:26:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI  asked how  the  lack  of technology  by                                                               
remote schools was being addressed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:26:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANLEY replied  that a  set of  solutions, called  portable                                                               
courses,  were  being  designed specifically  for  non  broadband                                                               
schools, which would allow for  copying and pasting directly onto                                                               
the local school network.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI asked about the origin of those courses.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:28:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY  explained that there  were course  providers outside                                                               
of Alaska, but that SERCC  was pursuing courses already developed                                                               
in  Alaska.   He explained  that  the pieces  of courses  already                                                               
submitted,  the  "artifacts,"  were  being reviewed  for  use  in                                                               
future courses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:29:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PINE pointed out that these  would be aligned with the course                                                               
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:29:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI  emphasized   the  need  for  culturally                                                               
relevant courses,  and asked if  the courses from  outside Alaska                                                               
could be adapted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY  replied that professional developers  had been hired                                                               
to assist and train teachers with the use of the new technology.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:31:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  suggested that  the funding  should be                                                               
provided by  the State of Alaska,  in order to allow  students in                                                               
rural areas the same opportunities for performance scholarships.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANLEY offered  agreement that the access should  be free to                                                               
all the students and teachers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:33:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK  offered   support  for  proposed  HB   104,  but  he                                                               
questioned  the  means  for  the  remote  villages  to  meet  the                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:34:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORMAN ECK, PhD, Superintendent,  Northwest Arctic Borough School                                                               
District,  reported  that  there  were 10  high  schools  in  the                                                               
district, but that  Kotzebue was the only school  large enough to                                                               
offer this  curriculum.  He stated  that six of the  high schools                                                               
only had  one or two teachers,  and that it was  not possible for                                                               
the teacher  to provide the  required courses with  the necessary                                                               
depth to the students.  He  stated that the students deserved the                                                               
opportunities.  He pointed to  the difficulties, even in the high                                                               
schools with five  teachers, which included the  lack of capacity                                                               
for video streamlining  courses.  He confirmed  that the district                                                               
had all  the high schools on  the same 55 minute  class schedules                                                               
to allow for  distance classes, but he  admitted the difficulties                                                               
for motivation  when there was only  one student in a  class.  He                                                               
stated the need  to address the small high school  in Alaska.  He                                                               
announced that magnet boarding schools  allowed older high school                                                               
students  to   channel  into   nursing,  teaching,   and  process                                                               
technology.  He  expressed appreciation for proposed  HB 104, but                                                               
he  declared  the  need  for  equal access  to  courses  for  all                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON asked if  the bill should  be postponed                                                               
or to have a later effective date.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:39:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. ECK replied  that the bill should not be  postponed, but that                                                               
the  reality  of the  delivery  system  and the  possibility  for                                                               
students   to   immediately   attain   scholarships   should   be                                                               
considered.   He stated the  need for post high  school training,                                                               
though not necessarily  a college Bachelors degree.   He stressed                                                               
that  the  computer  screen  did  not "meet  the  need  of  those                                                               
students who do  have that potential, just needs  to be unlocked;                                                               
a  computer screen,  as much  as they're  into technology,  still                                                               
doesn't unlock that deep part of  what makes a student a student,                                                               
and develops  you into a  true human  being, and brings  you into                                                               
full citizenship in  Alaska."  He questioned  whether grade point                                                               
average should be  included in proposed HB 104,  as many students                                                               
had not yet matured.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:41:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DICK  referred  to   the  Alaska  Performance  Scholarship                                                               
district survey on course offerings,  which indicated whether the                                                               
schools  in   the  district  could  provide   students  with  the                                                               
necessary  courses  to  meet  the  requirements  for  the  Alaska                                                               
performance  scholarships.   He  pointed out  that the  Northwest                                                               
Arctic   Borough  had   indicated   its  ability   to  meet   the                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. ECK  agreed that the  courses were  available in some  of the                                                               
schools, but he suggested that  there must have been confusion on                                                               
the survey.   He agreed  that the  potential was there  for some,                                                               
but not all the high schools.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:43:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  reported that  it was necessary  to better                                                               
connect urban and rural needs with mentoring.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:45:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked  to clarify if the  district would be                                                               
able  to   offer  the   courses  when   the  program   was  fully                                                               
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:46:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. ECK  replied that it was  not physically possible for  one or                                                               
two, possibly  four, high school  teachers to teach all  of these                                                               
requirements to  the levels necessary.   He opined  that reliance                                                               
on  the  computer would  attract  some  students, but  would  not                                                               
provide all of the answers  until there was an infrastructure for                                                               
video  streaming.   He  declared the  need for  a  high level  of                                                               
individual  student   motivation  to  be  successful   with  this                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:47:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON stated that,  until that level of streaming                                                               
occurs,  the students  will  not  have access  to  the skills  to                                                               
perform in today's society.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR.  ECK,  in response  to  Representative  Seaton, said  that  a                                                               
student did not need physics to  perform in today's society or to                                                               
attend college.  He declared  a need for small, regional boarding                                                               
schools or for  instructors to be available to fly  out to remote                                                               
sites,  all  of  which  would  require  increased  funding.    He                                                               
emphasized that  the option of  a distance delivery  class didn't                                                               
guarantee student success.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:50:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  "WOODY"  WILSON,  Superintendent, Wrangell  Public  School                                                               
District, President, SERRC  (Southeast Regional Resource Center),                                                               
agreed  that, although  the performance  scholarship was  not the                                                               
final answer  for all the  issues, it would provide  an incentive                                                               
to students.   He endorsed distance  education as the way  of the                                                               
future, and he  noted that some states required  a distance class                                                               
for graduation.  He offered  his support for any opportunity that                                                               
"was an  improvement, if  it moves the  right direction,  if it's                                                               
best for kids."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:52:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  THIELBAR,  PhD,  Superintendent, Skagway  School  District,                                                               
Board  Member,   SERRC  (Southeast  Regional   Resource  Center),                                                               
endorsed the scholarship  program and HB 104 as  an incentive for                                                               
students to  do better.   He  listed motivation,  robustness, and                                                               
technology as  pertinent issues.   He  defined robustness  as the                                                               
ability to  deliver a "deep  and enriching content in  a course."                                                               
He agreed  that although  a face to  face teaching  situation was                                                               
the  best,  video and  correspondence  courses  were better  than                                                               
nothing.    He  observed  that  Skagway did  not  have  the  best                                                               
technology  or the  ability to  deliver all  of the  courses with                                                               
teachers, but that the district was doing its' best.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:55:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  BRADSHAW,  Superintendent,  Sitka School  District,  Board                                                               
Member,  SERRC (Southeast  Regional Resource  Center), said  that                                                               
education had  historically "tried to band-aid  things together."                                                               
He said that the mandate for  on line classes needed to be funded                                                               
appropriately at the state level.   As an educator, he questioned                                                               
where the  money was being placed.   He offered his  opinion that                                                               
to motivate students,  it was important to invest  the funding in                                                               
early childhood education at the pre-school level.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:58:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON, directing  attention to  the needs  based                                                               
component  of the  bill, asked  if it  would encourage  a greater                                                               
diversity of students than the merit based component by itself.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:59:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRADSHAW  stated his belief  that, although it  was important                                                               
to have  the merit scholarship  available for every  student, the                                                               
needs based  component would  motivate many  additional students.                                                               
He pointed out that the top 10 percent of the graduating class                                                                  
in the prior year had a high percentage of their school costs                                                                   
paid.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 104 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Memo re Constitutionalism.pdf HEDC 3/7/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
CSHB 5 Version E.pdf HEDC 3/7/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
CSHB 5 Fiscal Note.pdf HEDC 3/7/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 5
District APS Course Survey.pdf HEDC 3/7/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 104
Workforce Investment Board Resolution.pdf HEDC 3/7/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 104